Great idea and thanks for sharing your quest with us here.
My first question is whether you have found or expect to find a big difference in price when considering TV size? Seems like when HDTVs first showed up, there were big price leaps as you bumped up screen size. Do 3DTVs have a similar scale or is it the case that the additional of 3D-ness to a TV doesn't cost more the bigger you go?
Looking forward to following your progress!

I've made a decision to buy a 3D TV. Why? Quite simply because my TV in my family room died and I figure if I'm going to have to buy a new television it might as well be a 3D TV. The technology is mature enough, the TVs aren't THAT expensive (though certainly not cheap), and of course, most of all, I love the idea that I will be the first one on my block to buy a new 3DTV.
So, my quest begins. Which 3D TV should I buy and why? Over the next month or so, I'm going to do as much investigation as I can and try to document my findings here. I will update this thread with new information and date it appropriately throughout the course of the month.
I thought that I would start out with some background as I search for a TV. First, I am looking for a a big screen, maybe around a 55" 3DTV, as it will be my primary television for the next decade (hopefully). In addition to myself and my wife, we have 3 children who will be watching which is important when it comes to purchasing 3D glasses. I am by no means a videophile, but I think I have an above average eye. I will also buy a BluRay 3D DVD player, so that will come into play in this discussion too.
I think that's just about it for now. Time to start investigating and will report back. If anyone has any initial thoughts, please respond below.
****Updated 5/10
With the weekend came some free time to continue my investigation. I decided to go out to a local electronics store and see for myself first hand what kind of picture these TVs could produce. As luck would have it, they had two TV's on display for me to watch.
First up, was the Panasonic Viera VT25 Series 3D TV. It's a 54" Plasma Display that lists for $2,999.95, but was almost half that price on Amazon. At first glance without the glasses on, as suspected, the picture was distorted, but still viewable. I don't think I could stand to watch a full movie without the glasses, but it wasn't too bad.
I grabbed the glasses and put them on and nothing changed. Oops - I forgot to turn on the glasses! Very important as the glasses are powered by small batteries in the side of the glasses. Of course, this begs the next question of how long the batteries last which (not surprisingly) the store employee didn't know. It would be a big bummer if the batteries went out in the middle of a movie, so I'll have to be sure to have extras laying around. (I went back and looked it up, and Panasonic claims a 75 hour life on CR2032 batteries for its TY-EW3D10U 3D Eyewear.)
As it turns out, I did not like the feel of these glasses. They weren't nearly as comfortable as my sunglasses. It wasn't because they were heavier - which they were - they just didn't seem to sit comfortably on my nose. Definitely a strike against this particular model for me personally and definitely glad already that I did a 'try before you buy' my 3D TV. I did notice that they were made to be worn over other glasses comfortably, so maybe that was part of my problem. I just don't think I could get used to wearing these particular glasses for any length of time.
Then another thought occurred to me. Can I use another manufacturers 3D glasses with this TV? The picture seemed OK, so I would hate to rule out a 3D TV based solely on the glasses. I'll have to do more investigation to find out or hopefully someone will help answer my question.
That's it for now, will post back soon on the other TV I tested out the Samsung UN55C7000 55" 1080p 3D LED HDTV.
***** Updated 6/21/10
It's been awhile since I last posted in this thread and I thought I would explain why because it's relevant to the discussion. Besides just being busier than usual lately, I stalled out for two reasons:
First, I wanted to see more TVs before I bought one and knew that Sony's products would be coming out this week. I need to visit a Sony store to check them out.
Second, I'm stuck on the glasses issue. I have 3 children, so that would mean that I need to buy 5 glasses for my whole family to watch a movie together. That just seems like too much of a cash investment to make this work, especially with small children who aren't the most careful with their toys. I need to think about this more before jumping in but am not hopeful of a TV that does not need glasses anytime soon after reading this article.
I will try to head out this week and see these TVs for myself and hopefully get more comfortable with the idea of dropping more money than I would like on glasses.
****Updated 7/15/2010
I finally saw the Sony 3D TVs today. A couple of my fellow employees and I took a long lunch and headed out to Best Buy. We were lucky enough to run into a few Sony reps who just happened to be there are the time, so were able to answer many of my questions. Here's a summary of some of the questions I was able to get answered:
1) Child-sized glasses. They are now available for purchase. That was good news as that alleviated one of my concerns. Unfortunately, they didn't have any demo glasses for children, but the Best Buy rep said that if I brought back my child, he could see what he could do about opening up a pair for us to try on. I want to do that first because I have a 12 year-old that I'm guessing is going to be close to being able to wear adult glasses so want to see what would fit best for him.
2) Transmitter. There is a transmitter that communicates from the TV to the glasses on each TV. When the glasses are out of range of the transmitter, they turn off. Some of the TVs have them built-in while some are add-ons. On the Sony 3D TV, it is an add-on. I asked why and they said that some people might want to buy the TV as a 2D TV and 'add-on' 3D later. This allows Sony to give people that option at a lower price point. I'm not sure I really buy that logic, but that's the reason they gave me.
In any event, what he said was that Sony had many transmitters so that you could recognize glasses from many different angles while other TV's only had one or a few. Again, interesting, but I won't be viewing from weird angles so I doubt that will come into play.
3) Bravia technology. The Sony rep explained to me the reason why the Bravia technology built into their TV is superior to other 3DTV technologies, but to be honest, all that really matters to me is what I think that the picture looks like to my eyes. So while I half listened and it sounded interesting, I'm not going to report the details here. I'm sure that they can do a much better job on their site if you are really interested.
4) "Internet TV" applications. While most of the TVs have applications built into them to access YouTube, Netflix and the like, the TVs were not hooked up to the Internet in the store, so I could not try out those features which was disappointing. However, I did find out that Sony is coming out with a competitor to Netflix which will be featured as an option on their Internet ready portion of their TVs. They plan on a pay-as-you-go model. It will probably start with Sony Pictures content then expand as they get deals with other studios.
5) Prescription glasses. What if you already have prescription glasses? How do they work with 3D glasses. Luckily, one of the guys I went with wears glasses so he was able to try it out. Although his glasses weren't 'big', the fit nicely underneath all of the 3D glasses he tried on. The Sony rep also mentioned that he has had people with bigger glasses try them on and they worked fine with those too. There are also companies working on prescription 3D glasses, so those are also an alternative.
Next step in the process will bring in the kids to check out the TVs and try on the glasses. I have my opinion on which TV I prefer, but will hold off on that information until next time.
****Updated 7/19/2010
Here are some more thoughts as I pondered which TV to buy:
It's really tough to compare 3D TVs against each other in the store. Not only are the TVs set up with different settings - brightness, tint, etc. - and a lot of glare from the lights in the store, but the 3D TVs also are not playing the same content on them, making it difficult to tell which TV has the best 3D rendering. In speaking with an employee from a store, he said that since the manufacturers are paying for their displays, they control what the consumer will see. They do this by locking down the content and preventing anyone, including the store employees, from changing it. Unfortunately, this means that consumers can't put in their own content or even put in a Monsters vs. Aliens DVD that is in one display into a different one allowing a direct comparison between the two.
I've used this technique when buying speakers and TVs in the past - using the same music or DVD across different brands, but without this as a guide, I'm wondering what is the best way to determine the best 3D rednering? So, I started a separate forum thread to discuss this topic.
The other issues I realized is that with the first TV purchase, you are really committing to that brand for life, or you will be paying a lot of potential extra dollars in the future. This may seem extreme, but let me explain. So, I go out and buy a new 3D TV, a new 3D DVD player, and 5 sets of 3D glasses for my family. I'm happy for a while until a year from now one of my other TVs goes out and I need to buy another TV. Naturally, I will buy another 3D TV as it makes no sense to purchase a 2D model at this point. However, since all 3D TVs have different technology for the glasses, if I buy a different brand of TV, I will have to buy new glasses too. At $150 apiece, that is an extra $750 for glasses alone! I can't see any scenario other than manufacturers giving away glasses for free or next to nothing, that I would spend that much more on a different brand of TV. This isn't even mentioning the fact that I would also have to keep track of an additional 5 sets of glasses around the house.
So, in my opinion, the first purchase of a 3D TV needs to be made carefully and be thought of as a long term investment.
****Updated 7/22/2010
OK, I'm getting closer and should have my decision made soon. Another point that kind of stalled me though just occurred to me. I've been so enthralled with checking out 3D TV technologies of the different brands that I neglected to watch and compare the 3D TVs in 2D mode! Since most content isn't in 3D yet, obviously, I'm going to be watching the TV in 2D most of the time, especially initially. It's another trip back to the store for me. Since I need to take my kids back anyway, I'm glad I thought of this now. I'm also hoping that it is possible and easy for the store employees to turn content that is not in 3D given what I found out about these displays being locked down.
****Updated 10/13/2010
Well, it is done. Finally, after months of investigation and indecision, the purchase has been made. Truthfully, there hasn't been a whole lot of investigation involved other than a few trips to some local electronics stores and some online research. My hestiation had more to do with the fact that I'm redoing the room that this TV will go into and I had plenty of time before the TV could be installed. I figured the longer I could wait, the better deal I could get. The installation is happening starting on Monday, so the decision needed to be made.
And the winner is....
Samsung UN55C7000 55-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV
I purchased it from Amazon.com as they had a special where I could get a free 3d BluRay Player and a Starter Kit which includes 2 pairs of glasses and the Monsters vs. Aliens DVD. The whole package cost about $2,500.
Here are some of the reasons why I settled on the Samsung model:
1) After looking at several of the models, I liked the Samsung 3D picture the best. There was nothing scientific about it. It just felt like to me that the 3D effects were the coolest.
2) The price obviously came into play here and the Samsung 3D TVs were very price competitive with other brands.
3) I was intrigued and excited by all of their connectivity through their Samsung Apps. I had purchased a Samsung BluRay player last year so have some familiarity with using Netflix through the player, but to have over 100 apps already for the TV is pretty impressive.
4) I felt like the LED/LCD technology was the way to go.
After I get the TV, I will post back with some pictures and my first impressions. Hopefully, I won't be disappointed!
****Updated October 26, 2010
My family room construction is still in process running behind schedule. I'm dying to get the TV up, but alas, I have a couple more days to wait.
In the meantime, a few other things came up that I thought I would mention:
- The 'adult' 3D glasses seem to fit on my children fairly well, so I don't think I have to worry about getting child-sized glasses. The real proof will come when they watch their first movie, but I am optimistic.
- I started poking around at purchasing some 3D movies, and am bummed at the initial price of 3D Movies that I'm seeing. $30 for a movie, even in 3D, is just too expensive.
- Don't buy a 3D TV without getting a free DVD player, glasses and a movie. Most retailers are offering them as "freebies" now, just look around before you buy.
*** Updated December 8, 2010
I just realized it has been awhile since my last update - too busy with other things! In any event, the 3D TV has been installed for a few weeks now and I have to say that I'm impressed and enjoying the (limited) 3D content available.
Here are some of my observations about 3D broadcast TV:
- While 3D Movies seem to play and render just fine, I think that 3D broadcast TV still has a long way to go. I watched the ACC College Football Championship game last weekend and there were plenty of times when much of the picture was out of focus due to bad 3D rendering I presume. It would correct itself after a couple of seconds but was very annoying.
- In addition, if someone or something was in the foreground (like a coach, or first down marker sticking up), it was jarring to watch. I was thinking that it would show up like it was in 3D right in front of me, but it didn't turn out that way. Instead it made it almost unwatchable to the point I had to take my glasses off.
- I also watched a 3D show on n3D, Panasonic's 3D channel and also had a similar experience with things in the background being out of focus.
I'm curious to know if other people are seeing these same issues or if it is a function of my 3D setup. Please comment below.
In the meantime, I've added some pics of my new setup attached as a gallery to this forum thread.
It's very cool to watch this adventure unfold.
To be fair, the TV you saw on Amazon is not 3D. Currently, Panasonic's only offering in the US is exclusive to Best Buy. However, they should have a standalone set out everywhere this month.
To answer your glasses question, glasses are not interchangeable between brands. Hopefully they all settle on a standard here so there will be more glasses choices from makers and third parties.
You'd also turn the 3D feature off (or watch the 2D version of the movie) if you weren't going to wear the 3D glasses.
I personally reviewed both the Samsung and Panasonic offerings in the US at Best Buy. Best Buy was carrying the 50" VT20, not the VT25 at the time I made my purchasing decision. Here are a few of my notes...
1. The Panasonic had much better blacks then the Samsung (not surprising, the Samsung is LCD, the Panasonic is plasma).
2. The Samsung felt washed out, both in 2D and 3D display modes.
3. The Panasonic glasses aren't rechargeable, and not as comfortable (although they do come with additional nose-pieces which help).
4. The glasses are *not* interchangeable. (There was an article about it, but I can't find it now. Some third-party companies are working on universal glasses).
I made the following assumption: Panasonic and Samsung will both revise their glasses, and the glasses can be purchased cheaper than the TV.
In the end, we chose the Panasonic VT20, since we also got it at a discount and it was already cheaper than the Samsung. We've used the 3D a little (we didn't want the BD3D player, so we've only been able to dabble in 3D with it) but mostly the 2D viewing, and it's been a great TV for our bedroom. I can't say how it would be in a main viewing area, as I have a 145" Projector system for our main home theater, which also made me more sensitive to blacks on a bedroom TV, since projection isn't known for it's great black levels.
Hopefully, some of my research has given some additional thoughts.
Agrabren - thanks for the info. Very helpful. I didn't know about the additional nose-pieces on the Panasonic glasses. Does it make them more comfortable at all? Also, curious to know why you weren't interested in the BluRay 3D player. And...holy cow, a 145" projector system. Would love to see a pic of that.
I wasn't interested in the BluRay 3D player because the PS3 will do FullHD 3D. And since I already own two PS3s, the BD3D player seems pointless to me. The additional nose-pieces did improve the comfort. But I'm betting they won't be as comfortable for children. I'll get a picture of my 145" system shortly.
Agrabren said: I wasn't interested in the BluRay 3D player because the PS3 will do FullHD 3D. And since I already own two PS3s, the BD3D player seems pointless to me. The additional nose-pieces did improve the comfort. But I'm betting they won't be as comfortable for children. I'll get a picture of my 145" system shortly.
That is a good point, however I was under the impression 3D Blu Ray playback wasn't coming to the PS3 until sometime next year at least according to industry sources like Joystiq, which we covered here. However, given that there aren't many BD discs coming out until next year anyway, seems like a moot point at the moment. For now, looks liek games and special events will be the best way to watch digital 3D without a PC involved.
You need to be careful with the wording and speculation. Sony did announce that the 3D Gaming support with be released before BD3D support. So let's look at the hard facts:
1. Sony has announced two firmware updates, one for 3D Gaming, and one for BD3D.
2. Sony has stated a proposed ship date of Cloudy in June, along with their new 3D televisions.
3. Sony has hinted at a firmware update coming in June.
4. Sony has *already shipped* the 3D Gaming update, but has not released the games which support it.
5. Sony has also been shipping Bluray player which will be "firmware-upgradable" to BD3D.
So, if we read between the lines a little more carefully, what we're seeing is a flurry of displays, players, and content from Sony, mostly targeting June. If Sony doesn't give BD3D to their players, including the PS3, before content arrives, people will buy their competitors products. It doesn't make business sense. The firmware updates are likely ready. The 3D Gaming update was nearly completed when they removed the "Install Other OS" update. The seeded developer builds had the 3D option already in them, but it was removed for that update. Shortly after, another update came down announcing "3D Game" support. And if you play around in the menus, you can confirm 3D Television support. But no games... Why would Sony want to push the game content out when you need a Panasonic or Samsung TV to view it? It's very carefully orchestrated, and I'll bet we'll see BD3D on the PS3 come this June/July, as the TVs ship, Cloudy 3D ships, and the BD3D Stand-alone Player firmware updates ship.
Agrabren said: You need to be careful with the wording and speculation. Sony did announce that the 3D Gaming support with be released before BD3D support. So let's look at the hard facts: 1. Sony has announced two firmware updates, one for 3D Gaming, and one for BD3D. 2. Sony has stated a proposed ship date of Cloudy in June, along with their new 3D televisions. 3. Sony has hinted at a firmware update coming in June. 4. Sony has *already shipped* the 3D Gaming update, but has not released the games which support it. 5. Sony has also been shipping Bluray player which will be "firmware-upgradable" to BD3D. So, if we read between the lines a little more carefully, what we're seeing is a flurry of displays, players, and content from Sony, mostly targeting June. If Sony doesn't give BD3D to their players, including the PS3, before content arrives, people will buy their competitors products. It doesn't make business sense. The firmware updates are likely ready. The 3D Gaming update was nearly completed when they removed the "Install Other OS" update. The seeded developer builds had the 3D option already in them, but it was removed for that update. Shortly after, another update came down announcing "3D Game" support. And if you play around in the menus, you can confirm 3D Television support. But no games... Why would Sony want to push the game content out when you need a Panasonic or Samsung TV to view it? It's very carefully orchestrated, and I'll bet we'll see BD3D on the PS3 come this June/July, as the TVs ship, Cloudy 3D ships, and the BD3D Stand-alone Player firmware updates ship.
I misread my own post, speculation was later in the year and not next year. Based on that, everything you've said makes sense to me. Hopefully you're right, and once their 3D Bravia set ships, we should see all the 3D Blu-Ray updates hit within short order. I'd much prefer to see a BD capable PS3 this year, but above all else I'd like to see some more movies available in 3D to make BD playback matter anyway.
Then again, maybe Sony will delay BD Blu-Ray support for PS3 a few more months to move some standalone decks.
It seems like a poor move on their part to delay PS3 beyond their own decks. Moving stand-alone decks is likely not as lucrative as moving PS3 units. And what better way to say "future-proofing" than to show FullHD 3D from the PS3, a player which came out years ago. If you remember the original FUD that went around (and still prevalent at my local Best Buy), the PS3 won't really be able to do FullHD 3D. A stand-alone player will look better. Sony has made numerous statements to the contrary, correcting that it will, in fact, support FullHD 3D.
Agrabren said: It seems like a poor move on their part to delay PS3 beyond their own decks. Moving stand-alone decks is likely not as lucrative as moving PS3 units. And what better way to say "future-proofing" than to show FullHD 3D from the PS3, a player which came out years ago. If you remember the original FUD that went around (and still prevalent at my local Best Buy), the PS3 won't really be able to do FullHD 3D. A stand-alone player will look better. Sony has made numerous statements to the contrary, correcting that it will, in fact, support FullHD 3D.Whether or not it's more lucrative depends on how you look at it. If you're buying a PS3 just as a 3D BD player (no intention of buying games or peripherals), I'd argue that it's less lucrative for Sony based on costs to manufacture. Or, if you're marketing a bundle at launch, it may seem more appealing to the buyer if they don't already have a 3D BD device at home.
To take an opposite viewpoint (and the one I would probably side with) it makes more sense to add 3D BD to all PS3 units right away, then market the crap out of it through PSN to try and make all those PS3 owners go buy a new Sony 3DTV to take advantage of it.
Interesting conversation, but we're getting a little off topic in regards to Ron's Journey. Perhaps we should move this off into a different thread if we wan't to keep discussing.
Here you go Ron: http://www.explore3dtv.com/blog/entry/14382/Best-Buy-Offering-Free-3D-Glasses...
Looks like if you act quickly on a 9000 series Samsung 3DTV, you'll get two pairs of 3D glasses free. Then, pick up the Samsung 3D Blu-Ray player, and you'll get the Starter kit for free, too. In the end, that's a new TV and Blu-Ray player with 4 pairs of glasses for free and one free copy of Monsters vs. Aliens in 3D. All you'll need to buy is one pair of glasses and your entire family is equipped. Not too shabby!
I went out and looked at the Sony TVs today and there doesn't seem to be a lack of 'incentives' for buying 3D TVs. I can't imagine buying a 3DTV without a huge "deal". I updated my findings above and have more to share soon.
A thought just occurred to me - I need to watch these TVs in 2D to get a feel for how good those pictures are too. Update of the post above with my thoughts.
"I go out and buy a new 3D TV, a new 3D DVD player, and 5 sets of 3D glasses for my family. I'm happy for a while until a year from now one of my other TVs goes out and I need to buy another TV. Naturally, I will buy another 3D TV as it makes no sense to purchase a 2D model at this point.However, since all 3D TVs have different technology for the glasses, if I buy a different brand of TV, I will have to buy new glasses too. At $150 apiece, that is an extra $750 for glasses alone! I can't see any scenario other than manufacturers giving away glasses for free or next to nothing, that I would spend that much more on a different brand of TV. This isn't even mentioning the fact that I would also have to keep track of an additional 5 sets of glasses around the house. "
There's actually no guarantees the glasses you buy for your TV this year will work on next year's models of same brand next year... but I wouldn't expect them to change it up for at least a few years.
The real question is are you going to bring the 3D experience to multiple sets around the house so soon, or do you restrict that to a single set. Your thought process is really thought provoking, although I'd say you're way ahead of the curve already thinking about their second 3DTV purchase. In fact, this point is almost a little scary for the future of universal glasses. If TV makers know they'll lock people into their brand with 3D, there may never be cross compatibility.
Great point about the technology glasses changing in the coming years. I'm sure that it will, but I would think that by the time I need another new TV the technology won't be changed yet. Obviously, if it does change, then this point is moot. Given your insight and this point, it doesn't seem worth it to invest in a pair of "universal" glasses, unless they are the same price as the ones that come with the TV which I'm sure they're not.
I find it interesting that you have just been to a big box store. Have you been to an independent dealer that sells the Mits line? I am watching one in my home right now, and it is killer - and I am talking 65" of big screen. Of course my room is fair in size and I have no desire to hang my set on a wall - so I beat the flat panel people at their own games ("we" have the best system blah blah blah) and watch the fastest processor there is - much faster than lcd systems. I get much larger image with no smear or crosstalk, no double image, I can lay on the couch at an angle and NOT loose the effect. I did NOT fall for the bull that you hear from kids telling me DLP is old fashioned while every theater in the country is moving almost exclusively to DLP projectors, especially for 3-D movie presentations. GO TO AN INDEPENDENT DEALER and speak with a salesman who has been around for YEARS.
To JimG's post...
Ron, I know you checked out a Mits DLP at one store, although if I remember you talking about it, the demo wasn't set up well. Still, what was your impression?
Jim, I don't think anyone's discounting DLP as an option, particularly at larger sizes. DLP does currently have one 3D disadvantage, though, which is that it does not support 1080p frame sequential 3D playback. Whether or not that's a huge issue is in the eye of the beholder, and really only affects BD playback at the moment.
I'm sure Ron would like to hear more about your experience with the Mits. Do you often watch 3D, what do you think of it? Also, what model do you have?
I indeed did see the Mits - at Fry's, another Big Box retailer. They had this back room that was quiet and dark and ideal for viewing. Unfortunately, they put the Mits in the middle of the store under the bright lights, so it didn't do it justice and I wasn't really able to get a good idea of what I thought about it. I did like the price given how big the 3DTV was, so I want to see it in the 'right light'.
I of course, love your idea about going to more of a specialty store. Have to do that soon - just been so busy with work, summer vacation, and sending the kids off to school that I haven't had time!
I'm glad that I waited a little bit given the lower prices (now under $1,000!)that have been coming out, but my theater room is also beginning to get set up, so the TV purchase has to come very soon!
Hey Ron. Here's something to check out. LG's giving away a free BD player and 4! pairs of glasses. Something to look into...
LG and Amazon Give Away BD Player, 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses
Hey, if you didnt buy yet here is my call on this.
Sony, Sony, Sony. I broke down in August and went for it. Bought a 46" 3D and I'm just happy as a pig in dirt. They have 2 46" models to choose from, believe it or not go for the lesser priced one. The only difference is in auto backlight and I have no problem pressing a button on the remote to do it manually for the money I saved.
Here is what I got. The TV @ 300 off. The 3D blue ray surround player and system for 200 off. 2 pairs of adult glasses and the sync for FREE. A brand new PS3 for Free. If I went for the other 46" TV I would have recieved nothing and payed another 1200 or so. Like I sayed, I can push a button to control the lighting. Sony Store purchase, not online.
I actually haven't purchased yet - trying to wait as long as possible to get the best deal. Need to purchase in the next week or so though. Thanks for the heads up on this system. I will check it out!
I am currently waiting on my new WD-65838 Diamond for downstairs and we have the WD-73837 in the theater room. 3-D off DirectV system has been awesome! Watched the Ohio -Florida game several weekends ago and it was fantastic. DirectV has been showing golf and tennis as well, fascinating to watch although I am NOT an expert of either of these sports. I too agree that most major box stores are displaying large format screens in excruciatingly bad lighting conditions. In the home environment there is plenty of brightness and detail - too much actually if you are into the "professional calibration" thing - which I am NOT. I have found the brightness of LCD flat to be always "torch mode" in stores to combat the mercury vapor lighting in the stores - and large format screens will NOT appear that bright! NO NEED though - watch it at home and see what 60" and preferably larger screen will give you both in HD and 3-D programming. 3-D and home cinema scream for larger screens - and mine are as sharp as a tack!
I added a new gallery of pictures to this forum thread with my family room setup. And a question - I've noticed that some 3D TV broadcasts (not movies/dvds) are blurry at times with the glasses on. Curious if others are seeing this too or if it is a consequence of my 3D TV setup (see above).





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